Online Discussion on key priorities for EIGE’s Gender Statistics Database

13 Dec '16 Tue 11:00
14 Dec '16 Wed 00:00
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Giovanni Razzu's picture

I suppose that by international level yo mean international organisations? I think it isimportant to udnerstand the difference here as the categories of stakeholders at national level will be sighly different from those at international level. For instance: do you target"international journalists", or "international Academics". these, almost always are national.

Giovanni Razzu's picture

Talking about those I know relatvely better, i.e. academics, I suggest you draw a list of all those interested/working on gender equality at various levels in each country and then send a newsletter, the first one with an introduction to the database and its characteristics and relevant links, and then an update as and when briefing papers assciated with the databases are produced.

Vytaute Vailionyte

Thank you, Giovanni. Your suggestions are really relevant ways of communicating the Database and reaching the stakeholders.
What is your opinion on mainstreaming the Database into other international or national statistics offices? For instance, promoting the mentioning of EIGE’s resources throughout national and international statistics data providers/producers? What would be the best possible way to do that, in your opinion?

Isabel Romao's picture

To start all the national  mechanisms for gender equality and all the national statistics offices should have on their websites a link to the Database.But we must also think about national speacialised research centers and civil society platforms existing at national level. The link with the ciil society should be increased. At European level, we can think about improoving the relationship with the European Women's Lobby. A link with the Databasen their website would be veru helpfull.

Karolina Jakubowska's picture

Are there any other stakholders that could reference to EIGE's Database? Should the Database refer viewers to e.g. national statisic offices that might have additional information?

Isabel Romao's picture

Another way to mainstream the Database would be through the stakeholders, such as international organisations with whom EIGE has already established cooperation and/or work agreements, as stated in the document on "Suggested EIGE'S actions". This applies also to new cooperation agreements.

Ligia Nobrega

Many thanks Isabel and also Giovanni, in fact our initial idea and I would say first objective to be reached is to link with other national and international statistical producers. On one hand this will facilitate the exchange of statistics data and metadata, easing the updating process of the database. On the other hand it is also our goal to benefit from other initiatives on gender statistics and provide visibility supporting each other’s communication process.

Carla Bros Sabria's picture

In relation to other sources, EIGE will take over from 2017 the collection and dissemination of data on women and men in decision-making, currently hosted by the European Commission , DG Justice database here.  Do you have any thought on this transition? Any important points you think should be taken into account in this process? Is this a right move?

Marjut Pietiläinen's picture

In Finland we have Minna - Centre for Gender Equality Information which is a very good way to share information on database too. And Minna reaches many kinds of data users. Of course we share information and links in our gender statistics web pages. And we also use social media to share the information - also on databases.

Ligia Nobrega

Good suggestions Marjut Many thanks, we definitely should explore the potential at the national level through our stakeholders such as EIGE's Experts' forum.

Anna Rita Manca's picture

I think you need to show how to use the database and which kind of info you can find there in ordrt o create the demand for the database. As regard the international and European organisations I would start addressing MEPs, from FEMM for instance but not only, and engage with them. First organize a small meeting in the arliament where you can present the functionalities and show them advantages for their daily work. 

Ligia Nobrega

Exactly Anna, this is indeed one of our main stakeholders which has not been targeted in the most appropriate way. 2017 must be the year. Maybe connecting it with other EIGE’s products

Marjut Pietiläinen's picture

how about small videos how to use database?

Karolina Jakubowska

Thank you Marjut. Improving user experience also through tutorials how to use the database is something which we are exploring. Does your statistical office provides such support? Are videos watched by users?

Isabel Romao's picture

Yes, Karolina. Whenever the national statistic offices have a specialised site on gender statistics or specialised research/data, I'm thinking about reserach on violence, national studies on time-use etc., they could also be refered inn EIGE's Database.

Karolina Jakubowska

Would creating such links require formal cooperation (e.g. singed agreements with EIGE)?

Karolina Jakubowska's picture

What should EIGE do to further enhance such cooperation?

Isabel Romao's picture

Anna Rita, Parliamentarians is a great idea, not only FEMM for the European level, but also national parliamentarians, mechanisms for gender equality in parliaments.

Karolina Jakubowska

Could you describe in a bit more detail how cooperation with national parliamentarians could look like?

Isabel Romao's picture

Another idea would be to include a small information point on the Database in all the meetings of EIGE's bodies and expert groups meetings, followed by a short discussion on how to optimise the use of the Database and how the participants can contribute to achieve that goal.

Ligia Nobrega

Many thanks Isabel. We have been trying already to mainstream the database into other EIGE's products and events. although, not always done in a most appropiate way due to shortage of resources.

Karolina Jakubowska's picture

I would like to post last question (if you have just joined us, do not hesitate to answer also some of the previous questions – all your input is welcome and will be taken on board for the final report).

  • What would be the best strategy to reach the support of other national and international statistical producers and link them with EIGE’s Gender Statistics Database?
Isabel Romao's picture

Yes Karolina. Since you cannot go to all Member states to present the Database, I believe the best solution would be to get all the names and contacts of members of national mechanisms for gender equality in national parliaments and send them a digital newsletter with a presentation of the database and it's potential. They could be included in your regular "mailing" list whenever you have produced a new briefing paper or whenever new and/or  updated information is available.

Ligia Nobrega

Yes, thank you once more Isabel. This could be a more structured way of approaching a target group within our main stakeholders and actually such contacts already exist on our stakeholder database.

Fiona Willis-Nunez UNECE's picture

I think you are already on the right track by making an appearance at international meetings on gender statistics, where representatives of many national statistical offices see you and learn about your products.  Also, by linking to their websites (e.g. if you were to maintain a list of the gender stats pages of NSOs), any office that is analysing the sources of traffic to their sites will notice if there is traffic coming from users of your database.  

I would guess that signed formal agreements might be less effective than personal contacts in this regard.    

Karolina Jakubowska's picture

Thank you so much for your participation and your invaluable comments. There will be more opportunities for us to meet in this space to discuss the database further.

 

We will summarise all your suggestions and comments concerning the Database in a detailed summary report. It will be circulated among all participants for further feedback and will undoubtedly shape EIGE’s planning for the future database. We will try to implement at least some of the changes you have suggested.

Karolina Jakubowska's picture

This page will remain open for the rest of the day if you would like to post any additional comments. Any suggestions for Twitter hashtag or links to briefing papers based on statistical data are highly welcomed.  

Thank you very much again and have a nice rest of the day!

Ligia Nobrega's picture

As Karolina said, this space will still be open for any other comment you would like to raise. Otherwise there is always the possibility to contact us through the help us to improve tool in the database, through EuroGender or by email.

We are very grateful to all the contributions received and for dedicating your precious time to this discussion.

We hope to see you soon during our events.

Would also like to thank ICF, Alphametrics and EIGE’s colleagues for their great work and support to this project.

Vytaute Vailionyte's picture

Thank you so much for joining us today! We appreciate your insightful comments and feedback!

Have a nice evening!

Cristina Castellanos Serrano's picture

I didn't write it before, because somehow it's similar to the proposalof creating links to the gender units of national (and regional?) statistic institutes, but I 've realised that the approach may be slightly different. If the contact with them goes both ways, for example their "wome and men in XXXX year" data is linked and potentially used to complement the  national and EU data provided in the EIGE DB, they may be more willing to use and disseminate the EIGE DB. For exampe by puting in context national figures with the EU or other countries as comparison. And different indicators and measures at national level could aim at fields to broaden information and how this has been obtained in particular countries. So several of the objectives may be obtained with these actions. By contactng to use their gender statistical product, they may also use and distribute the EIGE gender statitics DB, so their sakeholders include this DB in their source of information. 

I'm thinking in EIGE DB appearing as a" source of info" in pages such as this for the Spanish case, as other EC and international sources appear...

http://www.ine.es/ss/Satellite?L=es_ES&c=INESeccion_C&cid=1259925463013&...

Ligia Nobrega

Many thanks Cristina. These are definitely good ideas we should take under the discussed points.

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Maria José Carrilho's picture

Sorry for the delay

EIGE´s gender data base “provides EU-wide, comparable and reliable gender statistics”.  Eurostat collect information from all statistical institutes and conduct harmonized surveys, such as Labour force Survey, Household Budget Survey and Statistics on Income and living conditions- EU SILC. So, the indicators are harmonised at EU´s level.

EIGE´s gender data base “provides EU-wide, comparable and reliable gender statistics”.  Eurostat collect information from all statistical institutes and conduct harmonized surveys, such as Labour force Survey, Household Budget Survey and Statistics on Income and living conditions- EU SILC. So, the indicators are harmonised at EU´s level.

Maria José Carrilho's picture

It is important to list the non-harmonized gender indicators. My feeling is that these indicators belong mainly to the domain of gender based violence because of the different legal definitions in member states and two type of sources. Some countries used administrative data and others surveys. It is important to know the position of about this matter. Eurostat intends to carry out in a near future a harmonized survey on gender based violence?   

I suggest a reflexion inside the group of experts about the increasing of gender based violence´s indicators based on administrative sources. At moment are available two indicators which source is available in database, against five based on surveys).

Maria José Carrilho's picture

In my opinion is very easy to navigate in the EIGE´s Gender data base. I understand that is difficult for people who usually don’t work with statistical instruments. However, it happens with all statistical data base. So, the information and dissemination is very important. Perhaps something like “statistics explained” can help…

Maria José Carrilho's picture

I fully agree with the information about parental leave. I propose the following indicators:

  1. Beneficiaries of parental leave (No.) by Sex; Annual
  2. Duration of parental leave (Day), by sex; Annual
  3. Beneficiaries of adoption leave (No.) by Sex; Annual
  4. Duration of adoption leave (Day) by Sex; Annual
Maria José Carrilho's picture

I also think that EIGE´s Gender data base covers a huge amount of information but as Marjut Pietiläinen said “unfortunately it's all potential is not used”.  My experience shows that the information is not used because people don´t know what kind of information is available.  Sometimes the information is available online and the users are asking the statistical institutes services for the information.  It is a job for all of us: we must educated the users  and disseminate the gender data base.  The stories must be a good solution.

Maria José Carrilho's picture

I support Anna Leiskalne position about data table. It is very important that it displays the data by several years in order to create a series times. So, in my opinion this is the priority improvement area in the near future.

Maria José Carrilho's picture

We must be careful with the sources used in gender data base because of the statistical feasibility and statistical relevance of the indicators.

Maria José Carrilho's picture

Finally, I wish all of you

Merry Christmas and Happy 2017