Online Discussion on good practices on non-monetary measures in the area of 'Women and Poverty'

28 Jan '16 Thu 09:50
28 Jan '16 Thu 18:00
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ELVIRA GONZÁLEZ GAGO's picture
Jenna Randall Hill wrote:

I think migrant women, especially with irregular status, provide us a really interesting observation to the debate on poverty. Because they do not have legal recourse to labour rights, and are unrecognised by the state as citizens and hence cannot claim certain social protections, they suffer a double discrimmination. Invisibility is a problematic barrier as you have said above, but I think even more important is their position within the economy. Although they might not participate in the formal labour market, they somehow have access to income, maybe through irregular means, (maybe even through exploitation as a sex-worker or domestic servant.) They STILL contribute to the economy by providing services used by those participating in the formal labour market, while doing so in a situation of poverty or at risk of social exclusion. In this way, they are alowing citizens, or legal residents to capitalise on their labour. I would love to know about some practices that support these women, either monetary or non monetary, if anyone knows of any.

This is indeed a very important point. Some practices support women in irregular situation to find irregular jobs, and this can be a helpt for these women; but in my opinion these practices NEED to ensure that, as you mention, capitalisation of these women' work is NOT done by national citizens. Otherwise, I could not consider it as a good pratice.

Ursula Barry's picture

There is also the specific issue of islamophobia and the way in which it is increasing across Europe and the US. I think a specific strategy is needed to address this very specific form of racism - anti-racist practices should be prioritised at this time.

Hungarian Women's Lobby's picture

BOrbála from Hungary.

the European Women's Lobby (our umbrella organisation) is launching a common project on refugee women now with WOmen Refugee Commission (WRC) From conflict to peace. WOmen's and girls' voices on the move. 

From today's refugee becomes tomorrow's migrant. Another huge topic.

Doina Balahur's picture
ELVIRA GONZÁLEZ GAGO wrote:
Niall Crowley wrote:

Could we spend our last twenty minutes reflecting on the implications of our discussion on Roma Women and on migrant women for critieria for assessing good practice?

We already have some good ideas...Criteria for good practice need to reflect importance of bottom-up, social empowerment, supporting change from within, giving voice and intermediators.

What else would you suggest?

This is already a lot! I don't know well how, and by whom, but I think a rigorous discussion about the value of work being done by migrant women is needed not only by companies in the private sector but also by the public sector, responsible for a large share of long-term care in Spain provided by the public. That is, what about the gender pay gap in services to a large extent provided by migrant women and paid by the public sector? Our criteria could include promotion of fair pay.

I would suggest to take into account the extent to which the practice stimulates the sustainable partnership&cooperation among different actors (public and private) so that to identify commonly agreed strategies to improve the situation of the targeted group/s.

Niall Crowley's picture

Thank you all for your great and lively contributions to this final discussion session. Thank you too for your great contributions during the day as we explored the gender dimension to poverty and practice in responding to the situation, experience and needs of different groups of women in poverty. The thread will remain open for final comments.

We will upload the full transcript of this discussion onto the Eurogender site and prepare a report on the discussions that will be circulated to all of you within two weeks. We hope that you will remain in contact with us on this project and we welcome any further comment you might have.

ELVIRA GONZÁLEZ GAGO's picture
Niall Crowley wrote:

Could we spend our last twenty minutes reflecting on the implications of our discussion on Roma Women and on migrant women for critieria for assessing good practice?

We already have some good ideas...Criteria for good practice need to reflect importance of bottom-up, social empowerment, supporting change from within, giving voice and intermediators.

What else would you suggest?

Among the criteria, outreach to those further away could be considered, in our cases, better outreach to Roma and migrant women who are far away from the institutions and entities that could help them. Some practices do active search for women at most need.

ELVIRA GONZÁLEZ GAGO's picture
ELVIRA GONZÁLEZ GAGO wrote:
Niall Crowley wrote:

Could we spend our last twenty minutes reflecting on the implications of our discussion on Roma Women and on migrant women for critieria for assessing good practice?

We already have some good ideas...Criteria for good practice need to reflect importance of bottom-up, social empowerment, supporting change from within, giving voice and intermediators.

What else would you suggest?

Among the criteria, outreach to those further away could be considered, in our cases, better outreach to Roma and migrant women who are far away from the institutions and entities that could help them. Some practices do active search for women at most need.

I have really enjoyed the discussion, thank you for this opportunity! I'm looking forward to the transcription. See (read) you all soon.

Hungarian Women's Lobby's picture
Niall Crowley wrote:

Thank you all for your great and lively contributions to this final discussion session. Thank you too for your great contributions during the day as we explored the gender dimension to poverty and practice in responding to the situation, experience and needs of different groups of women in poverty. The thread will remain open for final comments.

We will upload the full transcript of this discussion onto the Eurogender site and prepare a report on the discussions that will be circulated to all of you within two weeks. We hope that you will remain in contact with us on this project and we welcome any further comment you might have.

Thank you all, it was a pleasure to read your inputs. very useful day for me! Thanks again. 
Good bye

Borbála from Hungary

Maria Caprile's picture

Thanks a lot to all of you! It has been a pleasure to participate in this discussion - and very helpful for our study

Maria Caprile

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Thank you all, it was a pleasure to read your inputs. very useful day for me! Thanks again. 
Good bye

Borbála from Hungary

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MAURIZIO MOSCA's picture
Hungarian Women's Lobby wrote:
Niall Crowley wrote:

Thank you all for your great and lively contributions to this final discussion session. Thank you too for your great contributions during the day as we explored the gender dimension to poverty and practice in responding to the situation, experience and needs of different groups of women in poverty. The thread will remain open for final comments.

We will upload the full transcript of this discussion onto the Eurogender site and prepare a report on the discussions that will be circulated to all of you within two weeks. We hope that you will remain in contact with us on this project and we welcome any further comment you might have.

Thank you all, it was a pleasure to read your inputs. very useful day for me! Thanks again. 
Good bye

Borbála from Hungary

Dear all

thanks so much for your input and for the huge contribution given to this work.

We will host a consultation meeting on good practices on non-monetary measures to tackle poverty and social exclusion, focus on in work poverty and migrant women.

The event is 10th and 11th March in Vilnius.

If you are interested or if you want to get/send additional information please send me a mail maurizio.mosca@eige.europa.eu

participation is by invitation only but if you are interested and you think you might contribute to the assessment exercise, please send me your request and justification.

We will soon edit and publish the report of this discussion

I look forward to keep in touch with all of you and I also invite you to join the survey on EUROGENDER.

Thanks Niall, thanks Maria and Ursula, thank you all